Imagine doing one cloud transformation - and now imagine doing it all over again. I would like to share the rationale and lessons learned during these 2 cloud migrations. We started our cloud migration with  Pivotal Cloud Foundry (PCF) in 2015 but for reasons that I will share later, our team decided to migrate our applications to the public cloud using AWS and EKS. In this session, I would like to share how we used AWS, Terraform and EKS and when it makes sense to use Platform as a Service vs using IAAS like AWS and how it's possible to live harmoniously in a hybrid cloud.